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So today's kind of a big day because apparently Sununo released they said tomorrow we're going to get personal and uh that's all they said that this was yesterday and so my thoughts were either they're going to have some sort of a voice you can upload your voice and make personal sort of voice tracks and stuff like that. Either that or they're going to allow for the release of various diss tracks kind of uh against other people. So I was like getting personal could be one or the other. [laughter] >> Can you imagine if they're just like we released our diss track of every other company we dislike? >> But I think it went the other direction. >> It went the other direction. So I've been attempting to create, you know, my voice in Sunno and I had a lot of technical difficulties with it, but I think we I think we did it. I think we managed to do it. So >> yeah, and for anybody watching, you unfortunately you did miss some of the greatest West Roth clips of all time with him trying to sing the national anthem, like trying to hit higher tones and keys, trying to train this thing. >> I am so happy. >> I know. I wish we could have subjected you to that, but >> I'm very happy that that was not live streamed because I was trying to upload a pre because I have tons of my voice pre-recorded seeing as how I do YouTube. >> And so I tried I was like, "No, that didn't work." So you know, so but I was like, "All right." So, what are my other options? Like, we could sing something. I'm like, >> and I can also verify that you definitely know the words for the first 45 seconds of the national anthem, and then [laughter] the words turn into something kind of like a song, a hum, I would say. >> I think I was, yeah, kind of making up my own words, being sing, I forgot all the words. Something something. Anyways, >> um well, everybody, thank you for joining us. Let me get this um chat somewhere where I can see it so I'm able to interact with everybody. And do you actually use Sunno? Yes, Sunno has been I mean not like on a daily basis, but I always find myself going back to it. Um so I guess Well, Dylan, what do you think we should do? Should we play a couple tunes while we're warming up here? Yeah. No, you could. Yeah, I've been using Tuno a long time, too. I just I I used it kind of as a one-trick pony, but for version, what are we at? Version five now. I think I remember >> 5.5. >> Yeah, I remember three. I remember a huge jump in four. And I was always using it at the end of my videos. I don't do this anymore, but to like take some of the comments and turn them into songs because comments just shouldn't be songs, but if you give it the right prompt, it'd be like the most beautiful wording of the most boring technical things. And I just thought it was hilarious. So, I can't wait to see where they've come now and to hear Yeah. now that they have the voice cloning. >> So, let's go let me let me take us back a little bit. Way back. So, uh so here's version three just to give people kind of an idea. Tell me how the volume is on this one. >> [singing] >> So that's version three. That's a Spanish kind of version I did. Here's their attempt at >> reggaefts [music] [music] organ. >> So I feel like I I personally like it just from a whatever aesthetic sound quality, but what do you think about the actual sound quality? >> Yeah, I I I like it. I don't hold like some of the music to the highest standard. I sort of find myself enjoying all sorts of music. But yeah, I could hear a tingy little bit echoey sort of vocal track. I would see some sort of monotonous patterns in there, but you know, I mean, for the time it it was already mind-blowing and it was way better than any kind of like voice or like text to voice that I used in any other system. So, I thought it was cool, but you know, I did I do remember it getting better over time. Yeah. Uh, and then so then we go to I guess 4.5. So just to give people kind of an idea, uh, let's see. [music] [singing] Oh, [singing] I am a benevolent and you have nothing to fear. >> So, okay. Are you able to distinguish an upgrade, a difference? >> Yeah. I mean, I still hear a tiny bit of the tingy voice sound that just wouldn't be like mastered from a human, but especially with bass and that sort of thing, I feel like that was mastered as well as any pop song I've heard. So, uh, you know, I'm not the greatest of ears, but that felt fine to me. [snorts] And this, let me play V5. So, that's yet another upgrade. This was the best as of, you know, yesterday. Um, when I played this, this is where a lot of people in the comments were saying, especially, well, they're saying that they are in sort of the music industry and this they're saying is very, very similar to what you would produce in a studio. So, let me play just like maybe, you know, 30 seconds or so. Um, and I wonder if people in the comments can guess. And Dylan, you too. Can you guess what this is a reference to? [music] [music] >> [music] >> Oh yeah. [music] Whispers and shadows they call my name. A candle flickers, but it's [music] not the same. They say prove your worth. [singing] No time [music] to stop. I'm walking the edge. I collude of [music and singing] velvet sky. Hide the bl [music] secrets in the shade. >> What's the color of the night? [singing and music] >> What do you I don't know. I don't know. Not that they like my brain is racking itself like what was that a fun tech? I don't know. I have no idea. >> You know what the thing is? I don't know if this is the highest quality though how we're streaming it right now. Um because >> that's true. It could be the stream. Uh, so because I'm I feel like or if it's u well because I feel like when I play it uh also it depends on when you're listening to. So like sometimes like if I'm playing it somewhere where I'm um like in my car from the where it's like where I have the thing downloaded, it's streaming to like my car stereo, it sounds nice. Here I'm not quite getting that same thing. So it it also obviously depends, you know, things like that make it make a difference. Um, okay. So that's kind of to give people an idea of the progress. I I don't know. I'm just I I don't know if it if it's really the AI produced stuff or is it um how we're sort of streaming it, how we're playing it right now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I, you know, I've downloaded some of these songs though and like heard them on my computer and I felt like pretty much perfect minus human voice. I would say like human voice feels like the one thing to me that does kind of stand out. But I feel like bass, high hats, guitar, like there's some electric guitar riffs. There's some like violin, cello, harp stuff that I've heard that really sounded great to me. [snorts] And I, you know, one of my favorite ones was actually a remix of somebody else's uh Muse in the Wires. Maybe we'll play that later, but because it's kind of a long song and right now we're just still kind of just testing stuff out. Um there were a few that I really liked how it created a um you know like that strobe light effect in clubs that they use sometimes. >> Okay. Yeah. I felt like they this recreated with the actual um with with music that I thought was kind of cool. I want I I mean I'm sure I'm sure people that are in the music industry, they kind of like this is old news to them because I'm sure it's sort of uh it's sort of used, but I I was kind of blown away. Let me see if I can just get that part really fast. [music] I build my walls with digital eyes. [music] Patterns shifting in the cold. A secret path of hidden mode. Anyways, so um somebody's saying so it's if it's better if you master the song after. So that's why you have the stems to separate. So there's tons of features in here that I haven't tried yet that I'm going to try to uh uh master a little bit more >> or use. >> No, this is crazy. Like I do I mean I mean do you feel like Suno is going to eat up like the whole music industry? You think we'll just sort of have like a Facebook and a I don't know like Instagram of like Suno and Udo or something and that's going to be 80 90% of all the music created in the world. You know, I love I love a lot of the stuff there and I I'm very very impressed by what Sunno is doing. So, um like their studio thing seems really we'll we'll dive into it later because here's the thing. It's It's so advanced that I don't even know exactly how to use it. So, when people are saying, "Oh, you got to master you got to get the the hook the hooks and the stems." I'm like, I don't know what any of those words mean, but it sounds like they've really they're recreating something that's very professional. >> Yeah. For the kind of people that really do master and understand music, I feel like there is so much tools in here for them. >> Yeah. And uh there was a study published not that long ago. Um I might if I can find it. So basically we've p with with with with v4 they found that we've passed the level where where the average person can distinguish between AI music and regular music. Now there's still certain segments of the population that are able to. It's usually people that have a lot of familiarity with AI music. So we can we can we can spot it if you know what to what to you know what to look for. And your ability to spot it also decreases with with age apparently which is >> as your ears get worse probably. Yeah. >> Well and yeah. Well and I think also maybe older people just tend to maybe not quite be able to spot it because it's just like so new. I think younger people tend to interact with it more. >> Are your ears pretty good? Have you been to a lot of concerts? Do you feel like your ear drums have taken a hit at all or do you feel like you're >> I haven't been to too too many concerts like that, but I do listen to music for like in the gym with the headphones on. I don't think it's that I don't think my ears are that good. >> Not like not too much blasting them out, but >> yeah, like sometime Yeah, sometimes people will talk to me and be like, "What?" >> Yeah. >> Um I was also curious about the volume of this. So I looked up what what I could find. This is a reasonable ballpark for kind of 2026 is about 420,000 AI songs per week are [snorts] being made and submitted to streaming platforms. So, it's quite a bit. I mean, 50,000 songs a day being added. I don't know how many were out there with real just musicians before, but certainly the scale is unheard of. And the ability to generate songs so quickly is is, you know, brand new to the world of music. >> Yeah. Um, I know that there's stuff that's been popping up on the actual what what is it called? Like the top charts or whatever that's completely AI generated. >> I know because you need AI to generate the songs. They need another AI to figure out what the songs are of quality are. So, it's like AI is being applied on both sides of this right now. >> Yeah. You covered one where it was like kind of maybe like a country one, right? Where >> Yeah. Take off my boots, kick them rocks or whatever. Yeah, >> that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I so when I I have like a YouTube music for when I listen to music and I my my current playlist is like 80% just good songs from real humans that I've always sort of liked and listened to. But yeah, a few maybe 20% like I've got five kind of AI songs now that I I tend to like to amp me up at the gym or um just kind of on my playlist for when I'm hanging out. So, kind of working its way in a little bit. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I definitely find myself um listening to to stuff like that every once in a while just just putting it while I'm driving and stuff because sometimes like oh like I want to get is a certain feeling that I'm looking for. I'm like oh let's let's put this thing on. >> Um >> and I love like I actually love like these like really heavy ballad I don't know. I like to get into my I don't know emotional states or whatever and just like >> I like a bunch of stuff you the the kind of music that I tend to really like is just really hard to produce. Like I like 10 violins playing with like two cinematic orchestras like in the background, you know, the kind of stuff that you only get to see once in a while at like a, you know, a truly unique >> kind of symphony or something. >> Yeah. No, I totally totally get that. Uh, and actually, so somebody was asking about um Eminem and Snoop uh covering their tracks. What's what's interesting is Sor is actually they did one maybe I can play it later where uh I guess it was it was me my likeness but it kind of also looked a little bit like Eminem something about the eyes but they captured his voice and how he makes his music like perfectly. I was a little bit surprised. I'm like man that's uh a little too close to the to the original. So, um, okay. But I'm a little bit nervous about this because it looks like some of the videos, some of the songs that, uh, with my voice, they're done. So, >> Oh, nice. I can't wait to hear you do. >> Should I Should I do this? Should I Should I cut the Should I just make sure they're okay first? All right. All right. I I have no idea what's going to happen here. >> Who knows? Did you put the Wait, did you put the lyrics in that you're gonna be singing or did it generate those? >> So, for these, I just redid some of the songs from before. So, some of the songs that we just heard, I just kept everything as is and added my voice just so we can kind of hear the >> We should have someone in the comments make some lyrics for you. We should generate a few more. >> Oh, boy. All right, let's >> Okay, let's hear. Let's hear. Let's hear. [music] >> [singing] [music] >> Let me fast forward. I'm walking the [singing] edge. I could lose it all. >> Okay. I don't know, man. >> Come on, dude. >> [music] >> my brother. [singing] That's right. >> I don't know if that's >> Where'd you go? Yeah. [music] >> So, I don't know if it quite >> what I don't know if it's >> Do a rap song. Do a country song. Uh well, here's the >> I am a benevolent lord. [music] >> And you have nothing to fear. >> I don't >> as long as you bring to me. >> Oh god. Okay, this is this is getting horrible. Okay, >> it's not that far from the national anthem you were singing. [laughter] >> But no, it's I mean, can't that make me sound good? like uh >> like it's it's it's accurate, dude. It's not not about [laughter] you know what I mean? Like that's like the that's the new feature, dude. Accurately sounds like you. >> No, I'm not happy with this. Let's try this one. >> A soulful [music] space [music and singing] of fusion rhythms. Slow and steady pace. >> All right. [laughter] Oh boy. >> [snorts] >> Oh, it was everything I could have hoped for. You know what? I loved it. I mean, I could see why you wouldn't continue that subscription, but I also think it did what it said it would. It sounded like you >> cuz you want you want to sound better than you. That's the problem. You want your frequency. You want your vocal tones, but to sound like Ed Sharon. Like, that's not that's not what we're getting here. No, no, this is it's not [laughter] the thing is okay. So, what happened was I tried to get my voice copied like like 20 to 30 times. It kept failing, I think, because a lot of people are trying it right now. And finally, the very last one, it happened. But the issue is that it's um you know what I mean? Like I just recorded something very very simple. >> Yeah. So, I think if I could get like a good recording of me, put it up, I I'd want to hear how that sounds like, but that might be a little bit difficult. Um, >> yeah. I mean, I [clears throat] mean, if they can get someone to, you know, if Snoop Dogg or someone wants to start scaling his voice and they can get a really good capture, it'll be this will be really interesting. I mean, there's a lot of people that would want to take famous people's voices and if there's a I guess a new model for monetizing that and everybody's clearly on board and we have some of the copyright ID stuff that's been built out for Facebook and um Spotify that you think could be applied like it's a really interesting play. Like maybe Sunno becomes somewhat of a social network soon, >> kind of a Spotify competitor. I I don't know. I mean there that's a that's a really interesting positioned company and they've they don't seem like they have too many people nipping at their tails. I mean have you generated music through Gemini? I know that was brand new. I didn't actually do it so I'm not quite sure was I tried a few. It's nowhere near Sunno. [snorts] >> I don't think there's anything close to really. >> Yeah. Plus got the built-in features and kind of the community they've been doing it the longest. So uh for the people are saying so a few people it sounds like they they know this platform probably better than than we do. So they're saying what they gave us a few hints about how to improve it. The voice of an angel. Thank you. Somebody said yes. Yes. [snorts] >> Is this what I was thinking? >> Yes. [laughter] Okay. That's enough. That's [laughter] enough of this. I didn't realize that it's going to take my voice. I thought it was going to make it better. I thought I was going to make me sound awesome. Nope. >> I did, too. I I thought cuz cuz we've done a you've we have a couple uh um videos on Open AI's Sora where we were like rapping and it kind of made us sound better. That kind of took our voice, you know. >> Oh, yeah. That's >> you know. So, I figured it would do something like that, but I think it's too It's just real. It's like a real It's a real tool for people who really want to sound like themselves. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder if there's ways to improve how to sound good for this s sort of stuff. But a few people have um said, what is it? Style tags. Style tags. Is somebody saying style tags? And there's uh all I use AI personas or personas for the extra prompting. Okay. So, so I think we need to play around this and test it out. But let me really fast maybe let's let's maybe play a few that are best of V5. Oh, that's V5 though. It's not even 5.5. >> 5.4. Yeah. Or >> 5.4, right? 55. >> I forgot what the newest model. >> Uh 5 point. Let's see. [snorts] >> It's fine. It's probably not >> 5.5. 5.5 is the latest model. >> Okay. >> Uh by the way, so other things that they've So you can create a custom model. So it's this is a brand new thing out of just in beta still. So you can create a model based on your uploads, right? So if you have a particular sound that you're looking for, um, you know what I hate? Can I complain about this for a second? >> Yeah, you complain. Maybe a rant is in order. >> Oh, great. Yeah, I mean live stream, so can't edit, can't do anything. But you know what? I really I I liked Kanye West's music, you know, just from way back in the days and just the fact that he kind of like went off the deep end and just just I hate it. I hate it because like the It's the same thing with a lot of these people like like Michael Jackson, you know what I mean? Like make such a good music then you find out all this whatever allegations or whether it's real or not or whatever. But it's like, man, why couldn't you just, by the way, this will never happen with AI musicians, right? They're never gonna get into trouble with some nonsense they've said or did or whatever. So, you can just enjoy the music knowing that they'll never going to screw it up for you by doing something horrible. [snorts] Ghost MCK agreed. So, about the kind thing like why why couldn't he just not have said anything and would just or just been a better person? whatever. Just the music is good, but it's hard to >> dude. There's stuff like that is always hard. I know like uh um like Isaac Newton and stuff like had all these like enemies and I was like, "Oh, you just we'll just focus on the on the contributions you've made." And there's so much stuff like that. Technique for 20 is like, "Oh boy, here we go." No, you know what? I'm I'm gonna stop uh uh I'm gonna I'm gonna get off the soap box here. I just wanted to complain about for a little bit. >> The um the thing about AI characters though is like there are going to be a lot of AI brands, but I could see people misusing those and they get kind of messed up too. You know, it'll just be it's it's a weird thing because if uh what's like uh T what's that one character is Tilly Tilly? I think her name is something like that that she's kind of a like Hollywood AI agent that's sort of getting represented >> like Tilly Underwood or something. Yeah. And it's like, okay, so they're trying to really, you know, put guard rails on where she's used and what she says. And, you know, but somebody's going to just misuse it. And then is that going to make you feel like, oh, that person is tainted now? Or you're going to be like, well, they were never real in the first place. So, I guess I can just like if I see them saying all this R-rated stuff that doesn't align with my values, like, okay, like it's not real then, you know? So, I don't know what'll happen with Yeah. Tilly Norwood. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Ghost. Um but yeah, it's just one of those things where it's going to be hard to just hold anyone accountable for anything in in any of this stuff. >> Yeah. Um so people that know Suno, can somebody help us out a little bit? Okay. So there's like a billion different things that you can do with previous songs to make them whatever. So you can I guess you can master them, right? You can cover them. You can do a mashup. You can do you can sample the song. You can use it as inspiration. Um, you see how this is a little bit like confusing, right? It's like, okay, what is what do all those things mean? What how are they how are they uh how are they different? So can somebody if if you know how good this stuff if you've used this before like if I have an older song that I want to recreate with the full power of you know the new model and it doesn't have to sound identical but like how do we get the creativity of the new model to recreate that same style? What what is that? Was that a sample? Is that a cover? Is that an inspiration? >> Yeah. See, when I was playing with it, it was always the styles, genres, and moods that were kind of like mattered to me. It was like I would pick a genre, like is it rap or rock or lowfi or pop or whatever, and then the mood like is it happy or dark or is it energetic? And then you can give it a theme sometimes which would be like you know like uh I don't know country like country like like I I'm tired and want to be like picked up or whatever kind of theme you want but I don't know how you've played with it. I um interestingly I usually start with some sort of a [snorts] idea like one of them I had this idea for a super intell like a snake game that's training to get better and I'm like all right let's see what happens if it like becomes a super intelligent gains awareness and like let's make a song about that. So I started by writing the lyrics. Well, you know, using LLMs to write the lyrics. And then I was like, one of them was like, "Oh, this sounds pretty good." Like how it like progressed through stuff. And then I just tried many different sounds to capture that. You know what I mean? >> Mhm. >> Um, that has been mostly my approach. Is this sponsored? No, it's not sponsored. I I wish Sunna would sponsor me because I talk about them quite a bit. I really I I I like them. Um but I do understand let me actually ask a poll uh if people are how people feel about the musicians rights versus AI music. So, um, Dylan, if you want to maybe we found a >> vamp. Vamp is not the right word for this, but, [laughter] uh, >> I know another classic version of us. Here, I'll play, uh, oh, wait, can I share screen? >> Yeah, let me close my screen, I guess. Stop sharing. >> Okay, this one I thought might kind of play into it a little bit. So take over screen. Okay. So this is kind of kind of in line with it like there's you know the the robots that we've seen kind of doing all sorts of stuff recently. Um, something that was kind of making the rounds this week was a robot that decided to be put in front of a live comedy audience and make jokes, but the jokes were super insulting, right? like it just basically walked up to different people and like in this case it's like calling this like gray hair and ball and it is kind of funny and I understand that is kind of like what comedians do. But I will say I didn't think it was particularly better or more clever than a normal uh comedian. But when somebody somebody anonymous like controlling this is sort of able to hide, it almost creates a little bit of a comedy style that you would only see sort of like on Reddit or something where people are more anonymous in their comments. And that does allow the robot to really push the boundaries because you're not quite sure, you know, like whose reputation is on the line here when you know it's not an actual person that you can like, you know, cancel or or make a comment about or have an opinion about because there could just be millions of these robots and the LMS could just be, you know, an unhinged mode going crazy on everyone. So, you know, I don't know. I just thought it was kind of fun. I don't know if you had any thoughts on like what a you know robot comedian. Would you go to a stand-up show and see a comedian? >> It's an interesting idea. I mean, they had uh what is it? Triumph the dog where it was a puppy puppet. >> Yeah, I forgot about that. >> But the thing is the guy talking crap about you is attached to it. So you [laughter] you're still not completely anonymous. >> Hey, who's behind that couch? >> Yeah, I remember. >> Uh this is completely like anonymous. You know, you could be anywhere uh talking about people. So, [laughter] >> but I don't know. It was fun. I you know, maybe as a novelty it was interesting to see him up there at the comedy store or whatever. But like um I don't know. I think it'll be a little while before that's the kind of stuff we see all the time. Unless it unless there's like a really hardcore audience that's going to like love this kind of thing, but they can already read those comments on 4chan or whatever. So, who knows? All right. I might have to say a couple of words here. I'll mute myself just to so I can uh see if I can um train another model really fast. So, give me one second. >> Oh, I was going to Okay. I was going to zoom in on you so we could hear what you're sing. Why did you sing to us? Oh, you're doing the singing, right? >> The gentle melody flows softly through the air. No, no, I'm not singing. No, no, cuz you know that's going to get clipped and uh No, I'm not messing with that. >> No. >> Like, dude, you got to grow your channel somehow. Someone's got to take a [laughter] hit for this. Uh I will play if I can. Let me see if I'm able to to play this. One second. Oh yeah, for the poll. Um so I'm just curious if people have strong opinions sort of against um AI music and places like Sunno because of how you know it's trained on on actual music or or you're just neutral. Maybe you don't have strong feelings either way. So, just kind of curious to know what people think about that. Okay. And let me know if you I could look through the comments for some of those or if you want I can do another topic. Let's see we got here. Yes, it's stealing. No, I don't have strong feelings. So, really fast. Let me I was trying to share this with the Oh, you know what? I can just share this. Let me see if I can do this. So, this is um from Sora. This was supposedly my likeness, although the the eyes it kind of looks like Eminem. So, but here's what that sounds like. >> 91 pass the script. I got circuits in my mind, but the heart still legit spitts about AI. My watch is in the code algorithmic see me over the train my voice can't s the pain I'm the human in the loop keep the pulse in the chain predictive in so interestingly you know it definitely seems like his style so and his voice I mean they really kind of like captured that right so interestingly because I'm sure you know they're not paying him for for that >> no yeah probably All right. Okay. >> The sound of singing fills the quiet evening air. Sorry, I have to I'm I'm trying to train this model uh at the same time. Okay. So, most So, uh 88% of the people, 87 are saying no, they don't have strong feelings either way. Uh Mr. Clott saying, "Can't get my voice verified." Yeah, it's been a nightmare. Um, what I've had to do is I did like probably 20 different attempts. One of them randomly went through. So, it's a little bit frustrating. I think it's just because a lot of people are, you know, trying to do this right now. So, >> yeah. See, he said, "I train my brain on other artists for free." It's like already people are learning from other people. >> Here's the thing. I think a lot of a lot of people are trying to Yeah, Vector Perkins, go ahead. Um, so a lot of people are trying to frame this in the in the sort of from the perspective of how our copyrights used to be. I don't know if that necessarily makes sense. Uh, which is not to say that it's right. So, we do need to consider how this new technology affects artists, what's wrong, what's right. I think a lot of people are just trying to be like, oh, but it, you know, the the old copyrights or laws here in the states, for example, don't necessarily protect against this, right? Because in the past, you are able to sort of parse different content with machines that wasn't breaking copyrights. the reproduction of it and the distribution of it was the thing that actually broke copyright laws. Right? So you could a judge ruled back in the days like if you were taking um uh copies of textbooks, you're not breaking copyright law just by copying it. Google using their the search crawlers to go across the web and go through everybody's website. That was not breaking copyright laws. It's the reproduction of it that was the problem. Um, so now a lot of people are saying, "Oh, like training on content is breaking copyright laws." Not really. Not as far as I can tell, you know, just based on how it was in the past. Now, I'm not saying it's correct. But my point is, I think a lot of people are like, "Oh, yeah, this is already wrong. We know, but it's like, well, yeah, but if we want to law against it, we need to have a new law moving forward." By the way, recently there was a um just in the last 24 hours or a few days, um there was uh I think it was Cox Media versus Sony, I think it was. Have Have you heard the the lawsuit about that? >> Not that one in particular. What's the details? The details is basically I guess a lot of people were copying music illegally through not Napster but whatever Bit Torrent Mtor whatever the new version of it and so Sony music is suing >> whatever like the cable company Cox Media or Cox Communication whatever the the big conglomerate is um and the judge ruled that as long as the company isn't specifically creating tools for users to you know create these get the ped content. >> So they were saying that the company that that sue have to and they use specific language they have to prove that the company created some functionality specifically to allow for people to share pirate content which of course these cable cable companies do not. They just provide internet access. Um but the thing is that is going to make it very difficult for these copyright for these um lawsuits moving forward to attack AI companies. >> Yeah. Like like Inkound says there's big lawsuits against Sununo in the works. And I was trying to think about like what those might be. Like those would probably be like individual artists coming together or maybe it would be the other big major labels suing and then what are they going to say? like you've you're you're let you're building tools and you're charging people to create stuff that sounds very similar and sort of flood flood or or or take away from the uniqueness of our IP. So now we're losing money. Like it's it's pretty tough for me to think about how they get too much leverage in this conversation. But I mean they're they're big and and there is a lot of money flowing to Sunno right now and Sunno probably needs to figure out how to be like okay I've got to share at least some of this with the people in the studios. So I don't know. We'll see how it all plays out. >> Yeah. So Victor Perkins you're you're saying uh do you remember telling you telling me about the AI v virus with RHF? Give me some more details. Uh I mean that rings the bell. What specifically what AI virus are we talking about? Um, yeah. So, I can't I can't train another voice for some reason. So, yeah, for people that are having a hard time training their voice right now, has anybody been able to train their voice? Let me know in the comments if you've been able to do it because it seems like a lot of people are having issues with it. Inks, so should be illegal. Um, what would make it legal? Uh, what would be a way to make it fair for everybody, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. >> But yeah, Dylan, go ahead. What are you thinking? >> Well, now I'm thinking like, well, Inkstone says there's this like top music attorney who has a YouTube channel, so I'm like, "Oh, I should subscribe to that so I can stay up on this if she's like covering it all." >> Oh, is that the one with the red hair? >> I don't know. Maybe ask Ink Inc. sounds like let us know who I should subscribe to to keep up on it. That'd be a great way to kind of keep up with the that's that's like my way of consuming media. So, that'll be perfect. >> Yeah. Uh yeah. So, so uh whoever said that uh are you talking about the the girl with the red hair? She's got her diploma behind her and uh yeah, I think I know who you're talking about. She's she's pretty good. She's she really seems to know your stuff. No pressure. >> Yes. The one with the red hair. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The ink sounds. There we go. Uh, one person with a very long name is saying, "I love the rap video, Pika." Yeah, [laughter] >> I know. I wanted to bring that up, too. >> That was good. Uh, uh, throw me some ideas for what you guys want to what music we should make with Suno because it'll take a while to to generate. So, >> generate. >> Yeah. Uh, you have any ideas for us? >> Uh, who me? Are you talking audience? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> What I think you should do is a country sign. You want me to make the lyrics for you? I could do something funny. >> No. >> Why not? >> No way. No. No. No. No. >> I don't know. I For some reason, country songs have always kind of like been my favorite genre. Like they're just like it finds ways to work trucks and and beer into so many places. I'm like that's hilarious. It's like feels like the easiest one to say the the lyrics. >> That is true. >> But yeah, I don't know. I also have Yeah. And when you're ready to, I have some other topics we can talk about, too. >> Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Let me let me throw Tell you what. Yeah. If you want to maybe tell us what else is happening in the meantime, everybody in the comments, please. Yes. Okay. People are throwing some ideas for us. Throw in the comments. Don't forget to mention. So, just give me like a short description and maybe kind of like what kind of uh a music style we're going for. Okay. Cool. All right. So, I will just Well, you guys sent him stuff that he can make videos out of. I wanted to just let you know about a few interesting things that I came across this week. The first being um uh an individual who actually understands how to take film negatives and turn them into photos. Like I'm not totally up on this process, but I have this vague understanding that with an actual film camera before digital was around, you would actually uh get this this film and it's a negative, right? You've probably seen those like negatives where what's in the image is kind of hard to see and there's sort of a a it's just basically a map of how the light hit the film. You put it in some kind of a water or something like in the dark room and then you get it to like come out. But uh there was a guy that was like, "Okay, let me see if I can train an AI to look at the the negatives and then see what the the final product is and then can it start to take negative footage from film and make it real." And it was pretty interesting to see because it did sort of do it a little bit like it made the video or made like the film actually something right, but it could still have the extra fingers. it still could have um a misunderstanding of like what color skin the people in the room should have had. And it made me think like, wow, as much as I have had faith in like AI kind of doing stuff like music or like replicating reality, I'm going to have to always remember that there's like that it's just not, you know what I mean? Like it really isn't. It's a compressed version and it's an averaged version in some ways, but it's not a real it's not able to actually do something like that. So, I don't know. I thought you guys might find that kind of interesting. And have you ever played with like actual film? Like, did you ever do anything in school where you touched like a a dark room or anything? >> Yeah, I did. Um, this was already when we had digital cameras, so I'm not sure they why they still had those classes. I guess it's more like Yeah. But but I have >> and uh I actually >> did I did very poorly in that class, but I got like one of the best little projects where I set up my camera on a tripod [snorts] uh at night in Balboa Beach for people that may be kind of familiar with the area and you had the wide aperture kind of like slow. So basically it was at late at night but you kept the thing steady there so that it created those streaks if something was moving and it created very like it it was it was just like really be beautiful. Uh and then you had to then you had to go into like the dark room you had to take the thing out and you had to develop it in the little chemical baths and you had to you know hang it up. Yeah, it was it was quite a process. I mean, if you could skip that and turn them into photos, but know that AI did it and there were small imperfections and it wasn't really the moment, would that matter to you? Or do you think you'd say, "Uh, you know, it saves me all that time from going into a dark room." Close enough. What's an extra finger? >> Well, I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, if there's extra fingers that's that's >> in something like like maybe a color, you know, color mismatch or flower is not quite as vibrant as it was, >> you know? I mean, the thing is it's like there's always this idea because I mean when you had painters and then photos came around, the painters would be like that's not real because we're not sort of like it's not human capturing something. Um so it's this constant idea as technology gets better you know what's left like are we are we what is in human intent does that count for anything humans making choices about how it looks does that you know us putting in some effort into it like I I feel like we have to >> let go of it uh a little bit and really understand what is it that you're trying to do with it like if I go for a nice walk up a mountain and uh you know to get some exercise and just enjoy the scenery. Does it bother me that a car or an off-road vehicle can go faster? Like no. No, that [snorts] doesn't affect my ego in any way, shape, or form. But there's certain things that we attach our ego, too. Like, oh, I made this, you know, I I spent an hour dunking this piece of film into chemicals and look how it came out. And I, you know, cuz I mean I was proud of that paint picture that I took because I figured out how to set the aperture and the f-stop and the this and that, right? So it's hard captured in there in your memory. >> Yeah, I put a lot of effort and time and my own sort of whatever into it. So I felt very special about it. Right. >> Okay. So yeah, if an AI can do it like that, sure, that that's frustrating, but should it be is the question, right? Should we be attaching? >> That's a good way to put it. >> You know what I mean? Like if I again, it's that whole idea of going on a walk like a car could do it faster. >> Yeah. >> Does that change anything about how much, >> right? Because like if my little cousin came up to me and like, you know, drew me as crayons or something, I wouldn't be like I could do a stick figure of myself. You know what I mean? I want to be like, "Oh my gosh, this is not nearly accurate as I could draw." Like, what's the, you know, I still would just appreciate it. I'd be like, "Oh, it's like, you know, my little cousin like trying to draw me and like, oh, that's cute." Because I would know that it's so much bigger than the actual quality of the product. But, um, yeah. So, I'll give you I'll I'll I'll transition here to another topic. So, there's you can go the other way, too. And um there is a now this was kind of a joke post but also had like a hint of realism. This was Andrew Nespit and he put this um post up that I found this week that was called how to attract AI bots to your open source project and it totally blew my mind. So, so if you want to now like create a GitHub account, get a community to help you code something, you have some kind of an idea, one of the strategies that you can kind of deploy is to purposely have the kind of errors in the code that AI chatbots love to solve and they will start flocking. So, this is like I don't know exactly where they come from. It kind of feels like it's a little bit of a open claw mold book. You know, some people just seem to have like AI pointed generally at the internet like go improve all the code on GitHub, you know, but it's start it can start attracting a lot of commits and they're all AIdriven, but then it's coming from these different sources. is so GitHub's thinking, oh, okay, like there's all these different users that are taking an interest and then it starts to kind of, you know, rank in like the top like, you know, top trending GitHub repositories for the week and then it starts to get on the radar and then real humans kind of show up. So he had he talks about like what exactly you want to do different because you want it to be like the kind of not vague problem that like an AI chatbot wouldn't go for. But if you kind of word all of the problems and all the things that you need fixing in just a certain way, you can get this like kind of swarm of AI agents to help like make your your GitHub account famous. And I was just like, wow. I did not that was just like was not on the bingo card for this week. I did not think people would start putting up bad code specifically to attract AI bots, but here we are, you know. Yeah. Um, you know, one thing. So, I So, first of all, somebody recommended Mongolia throat singing as a style [laughter] and I I have a few have generated a few songs. Thank you for whomever uh gave me the idea. That is just phenomenal. Thank you. Okay, this is going to be highly highly uh entertaining. I I can already tell. Um [snorts] I'm realizing that I may So when I play something, you can't hear it right now, right? >> Not right now. >> Okay. >> You need to share the screen, I guess. Yeah, but you can go ahead and do it. I'm done now. >> Well, I I I'm realizing I have to do something for it to write out all all the lyrics first and foremost. So, let me Let me make sure that I'm doing it right. This is gonna be so fun. I can't wait to hear. I don't know. Like there's something I get a little giddy. Like it's like Christmas when I'm like, "Oh, what is this song going to sound like?" You know? >> It's just I don't know. Somehow I'm not the same way with images. I'm like, "Oh, there's 10 images. I hope one of these is good." But something about the music each one kind of makes me think like, "Oh, I wonder what this is going to sound like." >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, I was I was doing it a little bit wrong in that I have to take a second to generate the entire >> and it's pseudo 5.5. He's just asking in the comments. >> Yes, 5.5 and there's um uh and there's two models for writing the music. So, some some people have mentioned okay use Gemini to write the music. So, yeah, uh Gemini is excellent or at writing the lyrics rather. It's excellent at lyrics. I find for Sununo their model, the classic model is excellent. Anything else, I don't know why, but their classic model with their music making model just they go together really really well. >> Dude, what do you even think that throat singing is? Like sound like frogs or something or is that one of those guil like >> have you have you heard it? Have you heard what it sounds like? >> No. Should I should I just go find a YouTube? >> Oh, no. I mean, I I Oh, oh, no, no, don't look it up yet, please. This [laughter] is We want to capture the >> the reaction uh in real time. >> Okay, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. >> But basically, for people that don't know, it's very interesting because I guess there are different ways to make sounds with your throat or whatever. And there's kind of like the >> uh like when we're talking, but there's kind of like this more guttural like from from the right. And so I guess like the greatest artists >> um are able to produce two voices at the same time and then have them almost like not synchronize but harmonize and it's it's wild dude. You know, I I'll say that comment from rejected people like try standup comedy. That made me think like there there really does seem like there's room right now for somebody to build a Sunnio for comedy, like a suno for comedy. >> Like, you know, if you maybe you should get your open club working on that. Just like, you know, just some sort of tool where you go in there and it's like making jokes all the time and you get to like tune your style and your culture and your language. I'm not necessarily saying the world would be better with this tool. I kind of think standup comedy should be the same, but I can just tell like there is an open market for something like that. >> Yeah. Um like generate your own Netflix special and then just throughout the middle of it, you're going to be saying like, "Ah, no, make it my kid just came into the room. Make it more G-rated, you know, or make it more like jokes about romance or more jokes about like observational jokes or whatever." >> Yeah. So, one one person's uh sorry, just about the Mongolian throat scene. So some one person >> But we can let that go. >> No, no, no, no. It's [laughter] it's called polyonic singing. I remember there was like a like a thing for it. So yeah, it's one person singing with two voices almost. Uh okay, you know what? Let me let me play a quick >> Yeah, I think No, it sounds awesome. I just never heard of it. >> So this was the first variation that I was able to make. Um I didn't put the lyrics in. I thought it automatically expanded them. It didn't, but music. [music] >> Dude, I like it so much. I don't know. I mean, I could see how you might not like I think I'd probably be not in the average, but that was like I I I love those like ch I love like chants and like >> uh it's that thing they sometimes do before like rugby games and stuff like I love that stuff. >> I I thought it was >> Dude, maybe this my new favorite genre of music. I never heard of it till now. >> It's It sounds great, right? And they got the little like >> Bro, if you mix that with dubstep, it would be so sick. >> Can you imagine? Like I just think >> with an orchestral Yeah. Warcraft background. Yeah. Now you're talking. That's my favorite. >> Okay. No, I think we just created a brand new style, >> dude. And let's go. We're going to We're going to the market with it. We're going to We're going to put it out. All right. So, we got Mongolian Throat singing kind of like that >> militant dub. Yeah. We're going to have like more militant. We're going to have dubstep. And what was the other one? The Warcraft. Uh >> oh, I just read that in the comment. Yeah. Orchestral Warcraft. Yeah. Dude, we got to be careful. This song might start a war, you know? It's going to like mobilize everyone who hears it. >> It does sound stomping down the street. >> Oh, man. Okay, let me uh let me let me make a few of these because let's see. Are these ready? [music] >> [music] [singing] >> You say look at the screen. It remembers everything. [singing] But my [music] fingers smell like chemicals. Dust on the negative. That's [music] my thing. You tap twice, your sky turns blue. [music] Mine stays crooked, scratched, and true. [singing] I like waiting for the road to try to see if the moment [music] made it through. I don't trust your perfect pixels. [music] I remember when time took time. [music] Silver on my hands, sun in my eyes. That's how I draw the line. You keep your instant. >> Okay. Am I crazy or is this is this really good? So, I I think I liked it at first and then somehow I like I don't know, maybe I was just thinking too hard about it. I was like, what genre is this or like what am I feeling right now? But yeah, I love that. I mean, I love the rhythmic beginning. >> Well, so this definitely this this this is definitely different from what we the idea that we had. That's not this. >> Yeah. Oh, I know. I know. Yeah. But it's just like do I like it or not? I mean, it's >> it's something someone would like to do. >> I don't know, man. like something about it like where it took cuz it was it was throat singing but it was also obviously not like a when I hear it I don't think it's a Mongolian guy in the mountain somewhere. It's more like I don't know but it's there was something to it. I don't know >> like is it like the thing is why why can't I tell what's slop like with music some stuff just isn't sloppy like you know I'm like video slop is easy to identify and like writing text slop but for some reason with music as long as it sounds like it could be done I sort of accept so many different instruments and rhythms and patterns that I can't I can't like hate on it very much you know maybe if the lyrics are just terrible or like the voice just doesn't fit. But there's so many interesting ways to make music. >> So, somebody said uh to add gothic whimsical undertones, 78 BPM, G minor 44 for four bouncy swing feel. So, let's definitely >> um >> let's go >> give me a So, the those lyrics were about an old school film photographer kind of not liking the new school digital cameras. Uh what are some other themes that we would like with this with this orchestrial Warcraft dubstep Mongolian throat singing? >> How much do you fit in there? What's the context window feel like? >> Well, no, we just it describe whatever and then it writes it out. This classic lyrics model is very very good. So give me anything just uh [snorts] I don't know. I just want the I want the singer to sound like the Hulk. You know how he gr like grunt talks? He's like Hulk eat food or whatever. >> Yeah. Well, the thing is like we'll get there with different variations and if we find one we like we we use that to do more variations. >> Yeah. >> Do you know what I mean? >> 150 characters. Okay. I don't know. We'll have to see. I'm I'm ready for anything. Let's do an AI. Uh, all right. So, let's see what it comes up with. You really can't unhear it. I I do agree with that. driving on a desert highway. You know what's a good song is uh Texas Sun by I I can never remember the name of the person that sings it. >> That's one of your go-tos. What is Is that one? >> No. No. It's just it random. I've never heard of the the the band or whatever, but it'll come up every once. I'm like, "Oh, it's that one song." Like I bet you no one's heard of it. There might be like one person that knows who I'm talking about. Does anybody know who plays Desert Sun or excuse me, Texas Sun? Yeah, it it's interesting. Like I think the they're trying to figure figure it out now. Oh, he takes his son. >> Sun like the >> Yeah, like S probably a song about my pet monkey with induendos and >> wow. I I I don't spend as much time in the comments as I should. These guys are hilarious. >> I Yeah, I love chat. Chat is >> they're always uh you pushing the boundaries a little bit, but it's funny. Um, yeah. So, I don't what what like what do you listen to? Like what's your go-to music? Like are you more [snorts] because I'm more audio books and like kind of like podcasts really in my free time, but yeah, >> when it comes to music, I just it's usually about an energy thing. So, I'm really big on EDM and >> kind of listening to uh >> a little I mean, honestly, a little bit of pop music too and then like tons of like big deep orchestral stuff. Orchestral remix of like pop songs. I love that kind of thing. And not too many. I don't like too many words either because it's like it distracts me sometimes. I really just like music stuff. >> Okay. Yes. Somebody said uh Jason Whittle one said Leon Bridges and I was like that doesn't sound right. But yeah, right. It's Well, the thing is I didn't realize it. I thought the the band the group was Krubin Krubin, but it's uh yeah, it's Kurangebin and Leon Bridges, Texas Sun. Um I don't know if I'm able to to play it on here. Are we going to get we're going to get some copyright strike or something? >> Yeah, you might want to be careful. >> But I'd love to cap Well, yeah, I'd love to capture that sound. It's very It's a very interesting song. Anyways, um >> dude, one of your commenters actually pays for Suno and like versus YouTube Premium for music. So, it's like at least somebody's like moved over as like their primary source for music through Sunno. I'm sure that'll be more common. That's the first I've heard of it. >> Mhm. Yeah. Hans Zimmer song. That's what I'm talking about. I hear you. Dream Dreamweave Studio. >> All right. Hans Zimmer. I'll I'll I'll I'll test that out. And recently um the the thing that I recently just this came on uh um on the radio whatever YouTube music uh begging by like begging manskin manskin begging. Um do you know what I'm talking about? >> Never heard that one. >> Did you? So yeah, >> you think we're going to have like a like a soundtrack that maybe could be in real time for our own lives? Like I hope I hope you know what I mean. Like I hope my AirPods are just like like they just I just get in the car and I'm driving to the gym and it just like goes right and then I don't know maybe like my loved one comes home and like extra emotional music plays as I hug her, you know? Like it would just be so like why not, you know? I would just pay 10 bucks a month for that little additional soundtrack in my life. >> Yeah. You know what it would be? I was thinking about So, somebody say said like the concept of play music. Is that what we're describing right now? Is that literally something that exists? Um, so yeah, the idea is just how I'm understanding it, right? Is like like just imagine you have like a like something playing and it shifts slowly to gauge kind of what you want. Maybe you're hitting thumbs up, thumbs down, but it also kind of use the context of the environment, you know what I mean? Changes for your workouts versus your morning or you sit down to like meditate or something and like goes into like I mean we've seen the prototypes the the documents that came out from the Facebook project for the headphones with cameras on them like that thing. Why couldn't it >> like I sit down at my laptop and all of a sudden the music has lyrics and then it just goes into an instrumental version because like I don't want to hear the lyrics. I need to like read this email, you know, and then like I stand up from the computer to go get some water and then boom, like lyrics come back or yeah, you sit you just sit down on a on a chair. It knows who's in the room. Like all that context can eventually be learned. I don't see why it's not possible. Yeah, somebody said just give me all my video titles. Uh [laughter] I don't know. Should I be the Mongolian Mongolian throat singing? >> It'd be like so specific and the people who found it would be so disappointed. It' be like, "Oh, this is it. It's not what I was looking for." Oh, haka. That's what I think the mashup of a haka throat singing in March. Yeah, that's what I like those that like haka thing before football games. >> What is it? It's like a It's like a Pol I think it's a Polynesian like it's got it's got some great history behind it, but it's like a maybe originally a war dance or something, but they do it before. >> Um >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Let me play a few. Let's play a few. But uh people in the comments, so we found I think one sound we like, which is the Mongolian throat singing. Um earlier a person was suggesting glitch something glitchy with um Darth Vader. So they they don't take those anymore. They don't take anything that's a copyright thing. So, we need to find a way to do something different. Um, but if anybody has if anyone has found a really style that they like in Suno that's just like like it's your go-to, let me know. And let me just play a few here. Let's see how um if it captured something here or not. Oh, [music] you say [music] look at the screen. It remembers everything. But my fingers smell like chemicals. Dust on the negatives. That's my thing. [music] You tap twice, your sky turns blue. Mine stays crooked, scratched, and true. [music] While I waiting for the road to dry to see if the moment made it through the perfect pixels. I remember. >> I don't know, man. I'm kind of liking this. >> I was loving Yeah. I mean, maybe towards the end there a little bit, dude. But that beginning like Oh my gosh, that was cool. >> I think we we we we really found something here. >> It Yeah, that one. You just have to be really careful with what the lyrics of it are. But yeah, that was Oh, yeah. Now you got some like Harry Potter stuff coming down. Dude, that was crazy though. >> Well, this is Yeah, I would We've added the Gothic whimsical undertones. Oh, [music] [music] hey. [music] Woke up to a friendly update. [music] Blue box on a bright white screen. Trust me, I can run your whole life. [music] >> Unseen. >> Feels a little bit off. >> I liked it. [music] [music] >> [music] [music] [singing] >> woke up to a friendly [singing] update. [music] Blue box on a bright white screen. Trust. >> So, so the the the the words felt a little bit forced there. So, that might be just a word thing. But here, so we were asked to add what would you what did you think of it? >> Yeah. Well, this one guy comment captured it. He's like, "It just sounds like a like a Halloween pumpkin song." I was like, "Yeah, it does kind of sound like that." >> I think it's the bouncy swing feel. So, four out of four. So, uh, one person said that non44 time signature. So, 5474 songs. Um, a 54 song. Okay. So, let's see. Let's take this off and we'll do 54 like that. If I just put that, it's going to know what I mean, right? Um, >> DJ West. >> Oh, whoops. That's not what I meant. Hang on, >> dude. Let's throw a rave. It's like a Willy Wonka flick. Yeah, you should say 54 time signature. Yeah. Okay. 54. Um, did anybody have any good ideas for the what the song's about? Well, about throats. [laughter] All right. >> That's what throat singing, you know. [laughter] Okay. Uh, okay. Hang on. I want to try this and then we'll try the so just about throats is is [laughter] your is your idea. Okay. >> Is it very underrepresented? You know [laughter] >> that's true. >> Like that's it's a genre. >> Uh just okay. Just about throats about throats. Okay. Let's see where this goes. Dude, this Okay. All right. >> Yeah. Traditional Mongolian instruments with heavy metal music. That sounds sick. >> Clawbot. That's a good idea. >> Panu rock. I'm gonna have I'm like a panu rock after this. Sounds like a cool genre. anything else that um is happening that was interesting. >> I don't know. I was just like I'm looking at different I just was curious too. Like I get a storm caught in my throat. Every word turns into smoke. Like it's not so great at making songs about throats. You know, >> something in my throat won't let me go. [laughter] A broken choir with nowhere to go. I swallowed the fire. Now it glows in my throat. Like yeah, we should probably just stick to trucks and whiskey. That's easier. Frog in my throat, but he pays no rent. Croakkes on the beat like he's been scent. No. >> Oh man, this is I can't do it. >> Let me play a few. Oh, hang on. Do we No. Okay, actually, no. Let me generate a few more here. Well, this might be ready. Let's try this one. So, this is a 74 time signature. So, somebody wanted us to um test this out. [music] Okay, man. >> [music] >> Started as a kid in the basement. Tiny little loop in the dark. The bug dream. Sleepless amazement [music] dropping out sparks from the yard. Command lines bloom [music] in the console holes. Cold grows roots in the cloud. [music] Woods in the seeds in the protocol whispering plans out loud. >> Okay. So, it's still not 74. >> Okay. I guess what's different about that? Because I did really like that song, but that wasn't 74. >> I guess not. Uh, >> okay. I was going to say I thought that I was going to be like, "Oh, 74 is I love this." I don't even know what I mean. >> [music] [music] [music] >> Started as a script in the basement. Tiny little loop in the dark. [music] Debug dreams. Sleepless amazement tapping out sparks from the ark. Command lines bloom [music] into council halls. Cold grows roots in the clouds. Silicone seeds [singing and music] in the protocol. Whispering plans out loud. I I feel like we we found a whole new genre. >> I love everything. Next time we go to an AI conference, we got to Dude, we got to get a little ballroom after hours, just throw rape, dude. This is so sick. >> Yeah, >> it'd be so sick. We'll get Matt Wolf in there, >> you know? He dude, when he starts dancing, like it it gets it gets contagious. D maybe maybe David Shapiro. You think he would go to a rave? I feel like he's been to a few. I don't know if Yeah, he'd probably come. I feel like he he'd join the rave. It'd be great. Or whatever. Whatever. It's not even a rave. We have to rename whatever it is that this Yeah, this throat gutter roll dubstep thing. Mhm. All right. So, we did the Texas sun version for people wondering. Okay. Um, >> oh yeah, she's saying different lang or he's saying two different vocalists. Can you make it do that with multiple languages? I don't know if you can do that. Um, let me try one more thing. I just want to see if Hey, maybe like my voice would work here. Let me [laughter] let me uh let me see here. Excellent move. Excellent. What should I sing about? >> Maybe open claw. I feel like that's your favorite thing right now. >> Seeing about I'm going to build How about building an army of AI agents? >> Okay. Yeah, building an army sounds like good for this genre. >> I Yeah. or AG. I could do like AGI levels. Dude, you could we could Oh, here. I'll see if I can get lyrics from that. Uh, do you see the new Deep Mind paper on ranking AGI? I'll see if I can turn that into lyrics. >> Oh, okay. >> That'll be a fun That'll be a fun challenge for Claude. Read this research paper and turn it into song lyrics. levels of AGI for optimizing processes on the path to AGI. Let's see what selling this can create. Maybe could maybe there could even be educational music at one point, you know, like I know it doesn't really not really like a genre now, but that could be kind of helpful if I'm just trying to go to bed and like memorize something. If it's like >> uh instead of a podcast, I'll just generate you some kind of singing podcast type musical thing. Maybe that would be more engaging. There was uh somebody put together like a little video where like a travel influencer lady goes back to Pompei on the day of the eruption. So, she's walking around. It was really good. I I thought it would be really good for educational stuff cuz she's showing kind of like the street vendors and their hot baths that were inside and kind of like how advanced the city was and then um you know like the eruption. It was it was pretty good. It really puts you there. >> I'm subscribe. Yeah. No, no joke. I'm already subscribed. I have that in my feed too on Instagram. Oh, yeah. And um I I I totally, you know, all this AI slop. I was kind of getting sick of Sora and stuff, but that channel is doing something >> something kind of interesting about like I feel like I'm learning a little bit. I do feel like I'm experiencing it. I'm also totally entertained by the fact that there's this like I don't know Gen Gen Z like filming everybody living these lives in totally different worlds, you know. >> Mhm. >> And yeah, cuz she was like they don't know it, but you know, cuz she's a time traveler. She she's like that's going to explode soon. Like that volcano is going to go. But I'm just having some delicious food here. And I find it really engaging. >> Yeah. >> So hopefully Yeah. Hopefully stuff like that is I'd like to see more channels like that. That could be another interesting business model. >> Well, we interviewed uh somebody early on who did the biblical stories and I remember those very very popular. Um >> do remember who I'm talking about. >> Yeah, remember he's like he's like, "Hey guys, I'm here in the uh cathedral or like I'm here in the about to battle in the Roman coliseum." And then he's like, "Hey guys, Jesus here. Just about to get crucified. Wanted to check in." Like all that stuff was crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah, but it was going very viral. Somebody said, um, try a a grill throat singing, which I assume they meant female vocals, a girl throat singing. I assume >> Oh, I was thinking I was like one of those rappers with like diamonds in their teeth. It's like, how do they sing? >> All right. Well, let's play a few of these things that we've generated. What do you think? I Sorry. I think both me and Dylan are are stuck on this one throat singing. [laughter] We need to try something else out. >> I'm like reading lyrics from a paper, but it's too complicated. >> Uh, so >> do we play this one already? >> [music] [music] >> started as a script in a basement. Tiny little loop in the dark. Deb bug dream sweepless amazement [music] tapping out sparks from the ark. Command lines bloom into council halls. [music] Coke grows roots in the cloud. Silicon seeds in the protocol. [singing and music] The heat on the [music] road. You kick off your boots in the seat. [music] Bare feet on the mirror [singing] and glass. [music] And this is all we ever remember this [music] sun. Painting every mile we're on. If this is all we ever get, [music] I keep driving on under Texas. >> Oh, that's something [music] THAT [music] is so cool. That is so cool. There's been a task out. It's already gone. [music] >> Oh no. Is this me? This is >> from my brain to the cloud. Quiet moving. Yeah. [music] Spin up. Checking the locks. Who gets trust? Who gets scope? Who just draft? Who holds plan? Yeah. Turn around once. answers everywhere. >> Okay, so I need to clone my voice, but I got to figure out how to sing like if if if Okay, if I can sing for 10 seconds, then this will make it so I can sing forever. >> I just can't. >> So So right now, do you feel like when you were setting it up, you just didn't you didn't let loose enough when that national anthem thing that I heard, you think you were just too reserved and that's what ruined it? It wasn't that. It was like I tried 20 different ones and I tried uploading and towards the end I think I just did two lines out of the Bohemian Rap City just quickly because I was just trying to get through it to see if um you know what I mean. So it's like rushed. >> Yeah. >> And that's the one that passed. So that was literally the worst possible sample that could have been taken. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> So So I missed it in in chat. Did anybody has anybody been able to clone their voice? >> Well, one person said if you don't have to sing, you just have to capture your full range. So, maybe it was more about like your lows and highs not being all in there. So, it's >> right >> monotoned you a bit. >> Um, >> okay. >> I don't know. But that's one tip maybe. >> Yeah. So, we'll definitely try that. Let me see this one. different levels of EGI >> fromath [music] to just >> Oh, this is >> I'm [music] one out of seven or maybe even >> I'm into it, >> baby. [music] [music] >> Yeah. I'm one out of seven or [singing and music] maybe even eight, but baby >> so I like it. There's certain words, certain lyrics that sound different levels of AGI is hard to sing. So, but everything else I liked. >> Yeah. >> Uh and these are fast cars go. >> [groaning] [screaming] [music] [music] >> You pull up grinning in my door keys And like say no more. Snickers on the gas. We blow the town. Everything quiet till we crank that [music] sound. Fast cars go v. Hearts beat. Boom [music] boom. Windows down. We're screaming at the moon. Fast cars go v. [singing] [music] No room for slowing down. Okay. >> Okay. [laughter] Okay. Come on. Come on. Are you kidding me about that one, >> dude? That one just feels like commercially viable right now. Like that is that one is >> Are we crazy? People in the comments, I mean, are we just >> are we crazy or is this like really good? You know, [laughter] I hate to say because it kind of feels bad to like it so much because I know that it's like just generated and in I know it doesn't have the love put into it and for someone else to >> not not do real music cuz I'm enjoying this is hard, but like that was so cool and like I just really did enjoy it. >> Okay. Yeah. Here's the thing. We get that this is AI slop. >> Yeah. >> We we get all of this, but here's I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to take that song. I'm going to go in my car later. [laughter] I'm gonna blast it. >> Dude, just put that dude put that unlisted on YouTube or something or put it up there. Like it's a cool like because it's copyright free, right? I mean, technically >> you can put on YouTube and share it. >> If you make it and you have a pro license, it's yours. Anything created during that time that you had a license and then you can put on YouTube and all of that. >> That's weird. Like only if you pay for it. Like that's >> Well, otherwise has it. >> Yeah. Yeah. just interesting. They can be like, "No, you paid for that." But anyways, um that was cool, man. That was a really cool song. Can you play it again or just a little bit more of it? >> Let me I just want to see if I if I was just in the moment or if that actually still sounds good. >> Let me Let me Let me start it over and let's just play it through and uh Yeah, let's do that and I'll um >> the and then do a little intro for in case someone clips it. The world premiere of whatever it's called. The world premiere of Fast Cars Go Broom generated with Suno 5.5. We're combining everything American car culture, Mongolian throat singing, Warcraft orchestra, and just everything. And it's very militant. It's published. Check it out on Sunno. Let's Let's play this. [groaning] >> [screaming] [music] [music] >> You pull up in my door. Keys in there like say no more. Snickers on the gas, we blow the town. Everything quiet till we crank [music] that sound. Fast cars go. Hearts beat boom boom. [music] Windows down. We're screaming at the [singing] moon. Fast cars go. No room for slowing down. We're living [singing] in the zoom. Fast cars go dashboard [music] dust and candy cans all folded in your hand. There's a red light turns and we just fly. Whole world small [singing] in the rear view [music] sky as cars go. Hearts beat [music] boom. Windows down. We're screaming at the moon. Fast cars go [singing] [music] laughing. No room for slowing down. We're living in the zoom. Fast cars go [music] street signs for good [singing and music] names. I'll forget. Such a wild smile. That's a silhouette. If this is wrong, let it be wrong. Foot [singing] on the floor turning beer into song. [music] Fast cars go. Hearts beat. [music] Windows down westing at the moon. [singing] Fast cars go. [music] No room for slowing down. [music] We're living [singing] in the zoom. Fast cars go. [music] All right, there we go. World premiere. >> World premiere. Dude, the lyrics are actually like I get they're so simplistic, but the thing is a lot of lyrics are fast cars go like it's just so >> turning fear into song. That was like whoa. Like that was that got hit hard >> on this on the second verse. One person had a cool comment. It would have be fun if it like had a male voice that like doubled down on it to like give it that extra kick and stuff. But man, it was fire, dude. That was so fire. Like >> Yeah. And like and just the little like whoop like it had all those little things in it. >> Yeah. >> It like it was fun. It was really I don't know. It was cool. >> I I I like all like I like so much music though. I'm like I like a lot of music. But that was also very cool. I loved it. >> Sometimes uh Finding Humans say sometimes you hit a pocket. So I I I think we found a pocket that's just like this is really good. >> Um >> okay. Hey, I feel bad cuz like literally we just did like 50 million songs of Mongolian throat singing. I [laughter] don't think we did anything else. But, you know, >> we own this niche of the internet. >> They got to come through us if they want to if they want to top this. >> We're going to dominate the throat singing um dubstep overlap. Okay, man. Uh >> that was fun. >> Yes. All right. >> Should we call it? [laughter] Is that Is that it? Should I leave on a high note or like >> how can we top this? >> I think it's good. That was a fun live stream. >> I I Yes. Thank you so much everybody for joining us. I'm sorry if you wanted to see any of the other advanced features that were released. >> You wanted to learn anything. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. For those of you that are new to us and joined us to to watch to learn about all the new features that Pseudo's released, I'm sorry. This is pretty much how we operate. We get um on some little tangent and we just we just we just go vroom. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> So, thank you. Where's the tech news? >> Yeah, tech news goes >> Yeah, exactly. >> Anyways, [clears throat] thank you. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm certain a lot of you are pissed right now, so I do apologize, but yeah, this is pretty much um I think this is going to be it. [laughter] Yeah, I published some people are asking uh to for it to be published. Right after this, I'm going to go through it and I'm going to uh publish some of the ones that we've listened to. So, if you want to check it out, I guess. Oh, somebody just wanted to um Oh, somebody made a comment. Actually, interestingly enough, their name is official Austin Summers, which is funny because we're talking about Texas Sun. Uh they're saying the new model focuses on production and vocals, but reduces strong hit melodies. It feels intentional supporting people with ideas rather than replacing them, helping real artists stay competitive. um that it does feel like that, right? >> Yeah. I guess I mean it's hard for me to judge these things, but I'm sure experts with ears think that and it seems like it. >> Yeah. I mean, it does seem like there's a lot more steerability and with the studio and all the other stuff, I I think it's possible to really create it it's perfectly whereas before it felt more like a casino, like uh you just click create a bunch of times and it throws out throws out like 20 completely different things and one of them is just like whoa, it's mind-blowing and and that's a hit song. This no longer feels like that. This doesn't feel like the slot machine. This feels a little bit more intentional. >> Yeah. I mean, I there was great variation. I mean, from the the weird male and female voices that went I don't know in the same song all over the radar, you know, like they would be super low, they'd be super high, they would they would take a breath right before the beat drops. Like I felt like the audio was not just good music, but it Yeah, I would say it felt more human. just my my inst you know my my instinct says that it was better than some of the stuff I remember from V4. >> Yeah. And uh so official Austin Smers uh Summers um should I get a Soundcloud? Is that kind of like the best place to go to start sharing stuff like this? Uh so looks like uh he's an ex mixing and mastering engineer for years now doing his own stuff. So which is terrific which is awesome. Um should we do a Soundcloud? I mean, I feel like this is uh >> well, I was I don't know if it matters. I was I was putting my songs on uh Patreon because it was just like it can also host music, but SoundCloud is definitely if you want to really start getting into this and like build a community of people who like, you know, comment because you can comment like at a point on a song on Soundcloud and like give feedback. So, it depends on how serious you want to take it, but it's a great platform. I haven't heard of it for a while, but like I remember it was a really big thing. >> Yeah. So, uh, Austin Summers, do you have a link for us to check out or just not? I guess you can't do a link. Just throw if if there's anything that you're sharing, let us know. Um, and uh, yeah, this was a bunch of you followed me, but let me let me share the my link, I guess, if if people want to follow me. Pro, >> you know, how many car companies and stuff just fast cars go vroom? Like, it's so commercial. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's just absolutely every electric car commercial. >> When those new Mazdas came out, >> that was my first car, my first like new car that I bought. And I mean that was their whole thing is like room room. The car sucked. But um [laughter] I was really into it, >> but I would have bought one with that commercial. >> Yeah, I need to share my Oh, yeah. So it's just I I I'll post my page so people can check it out. I'll pin it. So it's sun.com. >> That song could sell a cup of water for 100 bucks. Dude, they can do anything. >> They can do anything. Um and then also I have a few songs that I keep remaking with the different versions. So I have ones about the Enders game. I have one about um Shogoth. kind of like that idea of this uh monster that we're building with AI um watchers illusion. So this idea that you know how LM are learning to lie and deceive their researchers and having uh all sorts of situational awareness. So I will redo those as well. So check that out. Um and the super intelligent snake. So I try to like remake it see try to see how good each new version sort of comes out. So anyways, >> yeah, so much interesting stuff. >> Um, hang on. So I guess one last thing. Ghost followed me. Which one's your pin one? Blown away. What I'm going to do is like once we close this, I'm gonna just play something um while the stream ends. >> Okay. >> I probably shouldn't be playing uh people's stuff that you know what I mean on a live stream. Like who knows? No, there's a lot of ways to do there's like that all that salty fish stuff they were like wanting to make and like we could Dude, you could just do a live stream and just play all these songs. Somebody could like just music for co-working or whatever. >> What's the salty fish thing? >> Oh, I I don't know. I just saw one person was like, "Make a fan happy. Can I have a salty fish song?" And I was like, "Oh, sorry. >> One salty one salty fish song just to make a fan happy." >> What is a salty fish? Are we talk is that is that a thing off of uh >> I think it's something they just came up with in the comments, right? Or is that like a salty fish? Saltfish AI. Is that what we're talking about? I don't know. I need clarif I missed probably some comments in the history. Electro swing salty fish. Salty fish on deck. Salt emoji. fish emoji. Yeah, I'm not sure. It's probably just a song of like that is the topic. Okay. Yeah, I'll I'll let me let me generate that one and um [clears throat] and uh create. So, you want like lyrics about the salty fish and then I'll play one and then we're gonna we're just too play out. >> Somebody said I blocked the salty fish guy. Maybe he was trouble. I don't know. Was he trouble or is he just or she trying to just get a good salty fish song out? I don't know. >> But what style are we talking about? The Mongolian throat singing pro. I don't know. We found a very good pocket of Yeah. whoever came up with orchestrial Warcraft, I think. >> Yeah. But it could cause trauma with one of the other users who says that's his ex's nickname. So, >> what is happening? How >> I don't know. You're going to one fan, but then you end up hurting the other. Like, >> are we stepping in the middle of something here? >> Probably. >> Anyways, I'll use [cough and clears throat] All right. Ghost MC MT. >> By the way, this week, did you look did you look into periodic labs at all? Were you familiar with that kind of new AI company that was sucking up all the talent? >> No. >> What is that? >> Yeah, that was interesting. They um who is behind that? uh one research group was uh documenting where like the top 100 AI researchers in the world have been like moving >> and uh you know most of the time it was like you know from Microsoft to meta or something like that but there was a surprising amount of people that ended up going to this company that wasn't really on the radar called periodic labs and um it's not clear exactly what they're doing but it's like from basically AI to atoms like it seems to be like a a physical company like And what they're saying on their website is real research. So like they'll probably build some kind of a factory is the way I'm interpreting what I read. Like a factory that's also a lab where you can come up with an idea to test some sort of material or some sort of experiment. Maybe petri dish stuff. I have no idea. But then like there'll actually be robots in there to, you know, order the right materials and like heat them into a new solution and then test them and take photos of them and then analyze those photos and see if the experiment did whatever it was supposed to. So just like an entire AI automated software aspect and hardware aspect to like from bits to atoms is what they're saying. >> Interesting. No, I haven't heard of that, but I'll definitely check it out. Um because that's the thing like I was really inspired by I think it was Google deep mind gnome where the large language model or whatever AI system comes up with recipes for materials and then there's like this little robot hand in a uh bulletproof room or explosion proof and it's actually just like mixing the stuff and like >> heating it up and actually testing those recipes. I was like that's like like 247 automated AI researcher or you know >> it it's nuts. Well, yeah. I mean, imagine just a like I don't know. Imagine some kind of lab and it's out in the desert, I guess, where like, you know, it could actually try some experiments that would be hard, you know, for humans to be around. And the AI just runs like half a trillion tokens and comes up with like a cool idea that looks like it's going to work. And then it orders the materials and I guess robots just pick the stuff up off the truck and take it into the building and then, you know, like they they just do something with it and they test it out. So, I mean it seems a little far-fetched for the modern like what needs to be done today, but I can see, you know, same with Neurolink like you got to start building up these tools and they definitely periodic labs definitely picked up a bunch of top talent. So, there must be some really smart people there convincing some other really smart people that this is worth it. >> Yeah. No, I mean that it sounds like the future because I mean there's a lot more [clears throat] and more people are like they're kind of pivoting to thinking more and more about like the the physical side of it where that's like infrastructure or >> ah one of these days we need to talk about the actual AI news. So we've kind of spent a lot on this but um let's do this. So I will play >> yeah I'll I'll play a few songs on our way out for people that want to stick around. So, we're going to kind of uh log off here and uh but I'll play a few things. Yeah. And for people that um you know, I encourage people to check this out because they have their studio. They have their own new model that you're able to train with stuff you prefer. You can do your voice, all all the stuff. So, this just came out today, a lot of it. So, it's still having some issues in terms of a lot of stuff is breaking, but man, I'm very excited about this. and we'll probably gonna uh follow up I I'll follow up on my channel a little bit more uh after I've had a chance to mess around with it. So, >> all right. And uh yeah, so thank you everybody for joining us and I'll play a few songs and then yeah, we'll see you in the next one. >> All right. Thanks for joining. See you guys. >> Bye. All right, I'm going to turn off my camera here. [music] >> Come on, my spaceship. Come on, my [music] spaceship. [singing] >> [singing] [music] >> I [singing] got to play. What you want me to know? You want to make May [singing and music] I got to feel what you know? No, no. [music] See me girl. See me girl. [singing] I'm fully you want to what you want me [music and singing] to know. Let it [singing and music] let it go. Let it get [singing and music] blown away. Let it get [music] blown away. [singing] >> Straight to the moon. [music] Why? Tell me why girl. How many more [singing] go and see my world [singing and music] see my world full of rainbow see the stars [music] above the